BharatPremi
07-06 11:26 AM
Guys,
Here are my thoughts:
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There are Four group of people (Became current with July bulletin) who are affected and suffered.
1) The people whose applications reached to USCIS before 10:00 AM
07/02/07, i.e. before USCIS's new revision/update.
Note: Legally this group is the SAFEST one as their file reached to the
USCIS table on time while USCIS's first bulletin was in effect. Their
case is strong as far as "Law and Justice" is concerned.
2) The people whose applications reached on 07/02/07 but after USCIS's
declaration of new revision.
Note: This group can be fit in a category "Who did not receive ample
notice from USCIS for its intention to change the bulletin. And so
may be considered "Probable beneficiaries" by the judiciary
3) The people whose applications reached or will reach to USCIS from any
time between 12:00 AM 07/03/07 to 11:59 PM 07/31/07.
Note: This group will have a "Strongest" weak argument and case. Their
act of sending files perhaps may not be considered "Law-abiding" as
they have already received ample notice from USCIS and clear
statement of USCIS about "Rejecting applications upon receiving"
then also this group sent the applications.
4) The People who will not send applications at all with respect to the
USCIS's revision.
Note: In my oinion and mostly I believe in Judiciary's opinion thsi group will
be considered "Law-abiding" and who acted as per USCIS's
instruction within the periphery of respecting legal authority.
Now other points to be noted are as under:
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DOS and USCIS screwed up? Yes... Did not happen ever and now it happened , yes.. People suffered stress..expenses.. yes. Now what is stressed on is one time bulletin per month is a tradition and it is a long time tradition but probably DOS has a power to change that... It seems that there is no such law that DOS can not do that so there exactly Lawsuite filer may have a weak case. Now USCIS is supposed to follow DOS and make bulletin as per DOS's guideline and that is what USCIS did so where is the "Law-Breaking" ? USCIS acted perfectly in legal manner. Probably if Lawsuite filer decide to file the lawsuite on the basis of "Why the helll USCIS declared "All Current" at the first place" then there they have a chance to make a case strong but if they go another route like "Why USCIS revised the bulletin" then I personally do not see "much worth".
Now having said this, to me it looks like whether you file till in July or not OR whether you become plantiff or not, it should not matter. AILF and/or any other organization ethically and perhaps legally can not define "Class" narrowly to the limited group of people. If real justice is prevalent in this country judiciary should not allow any entity to define "Class" narrowly. To me "ALL affected" is the "Class" and if judiciary is considering it as a "class action" then it should consider "All affected" as a class. Now US justice system would go this way, I do not know but if it is not going that way then I would consider that as abig black loop hole in justice system itself. My guess is that if AILF would go defining "Class" narrowly, there will be some mechanism by which individually or with group you should be able to challenge that legally as well.
Now Judiciary, in my opinion may not take stand that ok this is a "Class lawsuite" and now Mr.X has become the plantiff so he would only be the beneficary if lawsuite is won. Either ALL affected should be considered for whatever the benefits come out or everybody looses it. Same argument goes for people who are not filing. By not filing they are obeying the legal instruction of government department of USA and for that they should not be punished and can not be punished by not granting any benefit to them whereas granting the benefits to the people who clearly challenged USCIS's revision by filing from 07/03 and onwards....
If USCIS is smart, it should accept all files now and create the process to have them rotted in the queue for years and that way it will be able to save its own face and limit on visa numbers will automatically send whole bunch of files for eating the dust for years.
I personally see our strong point only at have reimbursement of the money and time if "We are not getting current before one year (Validity of Medicals)
Any thoughts?
Here are my thoughts:
---------------------
There are Four group of people (Became current with July bulletin) who are affected and suffered.
1) The people whose applications reached to USCIS before 10:00 AM
07/02/07, i.e. before USCIS's new revision/update.
Note: Legally this group is the SAFEST one as their file reached to the
USCIS table on time while USCIS's first bulletin was in effect. Their
case is strong as far as "Law and Justice" is concerned.
2) The people whose applications reached on 07/02/07 but after USCIS's
declaration of new revision.
Note: This group can be fit in a category "Who did not receive ample
notice from USCIS for its intention to change the bulletin. And so
may be considered "Probable beneficiaries" by the judiciary
3) The people whose applications reached or will reach to USCIS from any
time between 12:00 AM 07/03/07 to 11:59 PM 07/31/07.
Note: This group will have a "Strongest" weak argument and case. Their
act of sending files perhaps may not be considered "Law-abiding" as
they have already received ample notice from USCIS and clear
statement of USCIS about "Rejecting applications upon receiving"
then also this group sent the applications.
4) The People who will not send applications at all with respect to the
USCIS's revision.
Note: In my oinion and mostly I believe in Judiciary's opinion thsi group will
be considered "Law-abiding" and who acted as per USCIS's
instruction within the periphery of respecting legal authority.
Now other points to be noted are as under:
-----------------------------------------
DOS and USCIS screwed up? Yes... Did not happen ever and now it happened , yes.. People suffered stress..expenses.. yes. Now what is stressed on is one time bulletin per month is a tradition and it is a long time tradition but probably DOS has a power to change that... It seems that there is no such law that DOS can not do that so there exactly Lawsuite filer may have a weak case. Now USCIS is supposed to follow DOS and make bulletin as per DOS's guideline and that is what USCIS did so where is the "Law-Breaking" ? USCIS acted perfectly in legal manner. Probably if Lawsuite filer decide to file the lawsuite on the basis of "Why the helll USCIS declared "All Current" at the first place" then there they have a chance to make a case strong but if they go another route like "Why USCIS revised the bulletin" then I personally do not see "much worth".
Now having said this, to me it looks like whether you file till in July or not OR whether you become plantiff or not, it should not matter. AILF and/or any other organization ethically and perhaps legally can not define "Class" narrowly to the limited group of people. If real justice is prevalent in this country judiciary should not allow any entity to define "Class" narrowly. To me "ALL affected" is the "Class" and if judiciary is considering it as a "class action" then it should consider "All affected" as a class. Now US justice system would go this way, I do not know but if it is not going that way then I would consider that as abig black loop hole in justice system itself. My guess is that if AILF would go defining "Class" narrowly, there will be some mechanism by which individually or with group you should be able to challenge that legally as well.
Now Judiciary, in my opinion may not take stand that ok this is a "Class lawsuite" and now Mr.X has become the plantiff so he would only be the beneficary if lawsuite is won. Either ALL affected should be considered for whatever the benefits come out or everybody looses it. Same argument goes for people who are not filing. By not filing they are obeying the legal instruction of government department of USA and for that they should not be punished and can not be punished by not granting any benefit to them whereas granting the benefits to the people who clearly challenged USCIS's revision by filing from 07/03 and onwards....
If USCIS is smart, it should accept all files now and create the process to have them rotted in the queue for years and that way it will be able to save its own face and limit on visa numbers will automatically send whole bunch of files for eating the dust for years.
I personally see our strong point only at have reimbursement of the money and time if "We are not getting current before one year (Validity of Medicals)
Any thoughts?
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nag2007
05-13 03:00 PM
You are talking about getting GC. My position is that I am just waiting it to be MARCH 2005 just to file for my 485. My job requires EB2 but attorney filed it in EB3 and now doesnt want to re-apply EB2. You all are better than my position. Been here for more than 8 years but still dont have EAD.
kavita
07-02 12:04 PM
Should we write letters individually stating how this law has been unfair to us personally? I do not think DOJ will respond to each of us individually. This has to be a mass campaign under one umbrella to be effective. I understand that the leaders in IV are pursuing this with congress currently so probably cannot participate in this campaign? What other ways do we have? Could this be an online campaign?
On a separate note, it has been frustrating to see politics in US congress over last two years. I am sure they know about the legal immigrant issues and about retrogression, but clearly say no piecemeal legislation would be passed. They work purely for vote bank which we are not. I would favor working on alteranative means to try to get relief.
On a separate note, it has been frustrating to see politics in US congress over last two years. I am sure they know about the legal immigrant issues and about retrogression, but clearly say no piecemeal legislation would be passed. They work purely for vote bank which we are not. I would favor working on alteranative means to try to get relief.
2011 Kristen Schaal
bfadlia
01-13 04:07 PM
It appears that you are cracking a joke, but I cannot stop from replying to your post. Why are you asking God to save IV? For the things we cannot do or for the things we dcon't understand, why do we always have to bring in 'God' in the picture? Can't we even crack a joke without brining in God?
I am just trying to prevent world war III on these forums. Thats why my request for not referring "God'. We will all be much more happier funnier and peaceful if we try not to bring in 'God' in the mix.
Next thing you will see, someone will post - "God, when will the VB dates move for my category".
.
we know what you two will do after getting your GC/Citizenship..
hopefulgc will join the republican party.. you will join the ACLU :D
I am just trying to prevent world war III on these forums. Thats why my request for not referring "God'. We will all be much more happier funnier and peaceful if we try not to bring in 'God' in the mix.
Next thing you will see, someone will post - "God, when will the VB dates move for my category".
.
we know what you two will do after getting your GC/Citizenship..
hopefulgc will join the republican party.. you will join the ACLU :D
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EndlessWait
04-08 01:56 PM
We all admit, that we haven't served our birth land as much as we have served America. Maybe there is calling here amongst all the turmoil with getting GCs.
Our home country wants us back. I know we have huge issues back in India. Population, Politician :-) etc etc.
Our home country wants us back. I know we have huge issues back in India. Population, Politician :-) etc etc.
map_boiler
07-06 12:57 PM
Well, they knew very well that they need to honor the DOS visa bulletin and accept cases filed in July. What did they do instead?
I don't think they will cash any checks. They know at least not to do that.
I don't think they will cash any checks. They know at least not to do that.
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valuablehurdle
09-05 04:19 PM
Hello Everyone,
I am back again. This forum is outstanding when it comes to reliable information....
I work for a reputed US Consulting firm. They under-pay you and make you over work. They market fake resumes in a polished way. YES... IT is TRUE. Don't just blame the desi consultants.
I am on a EAD. I wanted to switch to hourly basis and wanted to see if there are any direct vendors who would be ready to pay better rates. Desi Consulting Co. is out of question. From my experience, Robert Half is bad too. Is there a better way to market yourself..to the employer?
Any help will be appreciated. !!
I am back again. This forum is outstanding when it comes to reliable information....
I work for a reputed US Consulting firm. They under-pay you and make you over work. They market fake resumes in a polished way. YES... IT is TRUE. Don't just blame the desi consultants.
I am on a EAD. I wanted to switch to hourly basis and wanted to see if there are any direct vendors who would be ready to pay better rates. Desi Consulting Co. is out of question. From my experience, Robert Half is bad too. Is there a better way to market yourself..to the employer?
Any help will be appreciated. !!
2010 My pal Kristen Schaal snapped
srisra
01-21 02:22 PM
i am getting frustrated to see the bulletin everymonth and it never moves.
people applied in 2006 got their GCs. one of collegue ROW got when applied in 2007.
dont know whom to blame. why cant they understand our problems.
r they least bothered.
my PD is oct 2003-EB3
people applied in 2006 got their GCs. one of collegue ROW got when applied in 2007.
dont know whom to blame. why cant they understand our problems.
r they least bothered.
my PD is oct 2003-EB3
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wahwah
09-14 05:13 PM
give 2 or 3 months and ROW EB2 will go back to Jan. 2007 or March 2007.
we'll revisit this thread later again.
Total number of application will have no impact on ROW (number of application from ROW will have impact on that category), which i think will be very limited.
we'll revisit this thread later again.
Total number of application will have no impact on ROW (number of application from ROW will have impact on that category), which i think will be very limited.
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waitforgc1
04-06 11:56 AM
usually around 15 of every month
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chanduv23
10-09 06:05 PM
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vallabhu
07-20 11:23 AM
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09-07 03:07 PM
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boreal
08-26 07:09 PM
Looks like 25% of those still waiting are in 2005 - this blows away the earlier predictions that the dates will advance quickly through 2005 - looks like pre perm cases are considerable! I was hoping that it would reach my PD atleast in Sep 2010, but now, it looks only 50-50 chance (dont ask me how i arrived at the 50-50 number, just pulled some numbers from the air :) )!
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GCAmigo
05-24 07:24 PM
Illegals beyond Jan 2007 will be deported anyways. So becoming illegal is not an option anymore.
when you can become an illegal, what prevents you from becoming an illegal with retrospective effect.. goto Hialeah near Miami,FL & you can get all the fake stuff for under $500..
when you can become an illegal, what prevents you from becoming an illegal with retrospective effect.. goto Hialeah near Miami,FL & you can get all the fake stuff for under $500..
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thankgod
06-03 01:27 PM
May I add, these posts are very much relevant here as these kids are immigrants and their kids. They might become an entrepreneur or scientist in the future and it shows the value of the skilled immigrants.
We need to come out of our EB2/EB3 narrow mind and how it's going to help me today.
How come you applied 140 with out a priority date. :)
I am not seeing your priority date in your profile.
We need to come out of our EB2/EB3 narrow mind and how it's going to help me today.
How come you applied 140 with out a priority date. :)
I am not seeing your priority date in your profile.
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walking_dude
03-17 06:07 PM
Patton Boggs is a lobbying firm. Not a single person.
IV has it's own lobbyists and has been using their services to get Green Card increases attached to various bills. Good lobbyists cost a lot of money like good attorneys. Though IV has hired the services of one of the top 10 lobbying firms, IV is limited by funds in utilizing their services. Most of IVs funding comes from few recurring contributors and other members who contribute one-time every now and then. Most of the money gets spent on these lobbying efforts.
There is a general tendency here to blame IV for not trying to attach increase in Green Cards to every immigration-related bill in the Congress, or not doing more lobbying. Members who blame IV need to understand the constraint of operating under limited funds and the necessity of making wise investments in only those efforts that are likely to yeild the most benefits like the Admin fixes campaign which has a better of chance of passing in an election year than the immigration-related bills.
If IV had more regular contributing members and more funds, IV would've tried to attach it's measures to more bills and we would've had a better chance of success. But sadly that's not the case. We need to appreciate that IV is doing the best it can under the circumstances.
Patton Boggs is a lobbyist hired by IV, Can he help in this situation ? It may be the case he already may be working to get something thru ..
IV has it's own lobbyists and has been using their services to get Green Card increases attached to various bills. Good lobbyists cost a lot of money like good attorneys. Though IV has hired the services of one of the top 10 lobbying firms, IV is limited by funds in utilizing their services. Most of IVs funding comes from few recurring contributors and other members who contribute one-time every now and then. Most of the money gets spent on these lobbying efforts.
There is a general tendency here to blame IV for not trying to attach increase in Green Cards to every immigration-related bill in the Congress, or not doing more lobbying. Members who blame IV need to understand the constraint of operating under limited funds and the necessity of making wise investments in only those efforts that are likely to yeild the most benefits like the Admin fixes campaign which has a better of chance of passing in an election year than the immigration-related bills.
If IV had more regular contributing members and more funds, IV would've tried to attach it's measures to more bills and we would've had a better chance of success. But sadly that's not the case. We need to appreciate that IV is doing the best it can under the circumstances.
Patton Boggs is a lobbyist hired by IV, Can he help in this situation ? It may be the case he already may be working to get something thru ..
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bottlemani
04-26 07:57 AM
I am so proud of you guys! Excellent job!!!!
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akred
04-15 05:57 PM
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Macaca
06-16 07:33 PM
Unripe Due to Limits on Annual Immigration 869,544 (as of March 2007) [Table on page 14]
Processed applications for green cards that cannot be approved due to annual statutory limits 29,303
Is this Unripe EB due to cap?
I-130 relative petitions 799,043
Asylum-based green card applicants 41,198
Processed applications for green cards that cannot be approved due to annual statutory limits 29,303
Is this Unripe EB due to cap?
I-130 relative petitions 799,043
Asylum-based green card applicants 41,198
franklin
08-22 01:40 PM
Think of it this way. Conservative estimations say that in the recent application rush, USCIS received 300K applications.
That is 2 year's worth of applications alone, not including those already at USCIS.
If you compound that with the asinine 7% country limit, and assume that there are MUCH more than 7% of that 300K from Indian nationality - I'd say you are looking at much longer than a 3 year wait on average. I'd guestimate 7 years.
The only way this will change is to support the DC rally. We are getting major traction and positive news on this and it's potential affects. Please do everything you can to come.
There are people offering to pay 100% of airfare, there are free buses being set up. There are very few valid reasons not to come!
Be part of history!
That is 2 year's worth of applications alone, not including those already at USCIS.
If you compound that with the asinine 7% country limit, and assume that there are MUCH more than 7% of that 300K from Indian nationality - I'd say you are looking at much longer than a 3 year wait on average. I'd guestimate 7 years.
The only way this will change is to support the DC rally. We are getting major traction and positive news on this and it's potential affects. Please do everything you can to come.
There are people offering to pay 100% of airfare, there are free buses being set up. There are very few valid reasons not to come!
Be part of history!