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  • bestin
    02-13 05:43 AM
    Agreed dude.

    But the system is totally messed up and we cant have an overnight change .Even if they initiate something now by the time it gets actually implemented it shuld be more than 1 year.If nothing works out within atleast 1.5 years to 2 years this should be definitely considered.





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  • amitga
    02-15 02:39 PM
    The counter argument to this statement is that when I was hired I was told that it would take 2-3 years to get the Green Card and then you can live in this country. I made certain investments, commitments in this country based on this fact. Now either I stay here as slave or loose on all those things that I did thinking that I will stay in this country forever or for next 10-15 yrs. Some of the problems that tied me to this country are :
    1) Buying a house
    2) Child education : Child cannot go back to home country and countinue education due to language of instruction.
    3) Immovable Investments like 401K and not investing in my own country e.g. PF in India.
    4) Making life insurances. I am too old to take a new life insurance as the premium will be too high and I cannot afford to pay my current life insurance as US as it would be difficult to them with my earnings in the home country.

    And the list can go on and on. There are the things that habe tied me and I am no longer free to leave. If would have know earlier that the GC will take 10 years I would have not bought a house, left US before my kid started school, might have took a life insurance in home country etc. In fact same argument prevails that why were the dates made current last July. That send a wrong message and people made more investments.

    Your above statement is true, but it doesn't apply to EB situation. A slave is not allowed to leave, you are allowed to leave time, at your free will. Its just that you chose not to leave. The correct description of the situation is - you are imposing slavery upon yourself and asking for remedy from the government. Isn't that correct? Jazzy is simply saying that you can leave if you don't like it. So you are not a slave. Its that simple.



    Laws are pretty clear, its just that we are stuck in the process created by those laws and we want to call it "slavery".

    This debate will have a conclusive output if we think from our mind instead from our heart. No point in getting emotional about the situation, this debate needs pragmatic thinking and discussion about the possible lawsuit.

    Slavery is not a valid argument so no point in mentioning it. Also, whether of not we have a cause depends on the law and not on the logic or the emotional aspect of the debate.





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  • sc09876
    07-21 02:35 PM
    Get the number, add to the contact list, name the contact as torture.com LOL

    Can you explain me in more detail. How to do this? How can u save their number as torture.com?





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  • sbabunle
    04-29 12:31 PM
    That means---> Once the labor is approved you have to use it in 45 days.
    ie apply for 140 in 45 days or LC is expired...I'm glad they did not propose to file I485 in 45 days :D

    I think 45 days is too short. Since LC cannot replaced, it cannot be used for anyone else. So I dont understand why they need an expiry date too...At lease a LC should be valid for 6 months.

    But we have to wait and see what the final rule is. There may be some changes fromt he proposed rule.

    babu



    Can you anyone tell what the lines highlighted below in blue means ?

    ************************************************** ******

    RIN: 1205-AB42 Agenda Cycle: 200610

    Title: Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States; Reducing the Incentives and Opportunities for Fraud and Abuse and Enhancing Program Integrity

    Abstract: The Department of Labor proposed changes to reduce the incentives and opportunities for fraud and abuse related to the permanent employment of aliens in the United States. Among other key changes, the Department is eliminating the current practice of allowing the substitution of alien beneficiaries on applications and approved labor certifications. DOL proposed to further reduce the likelihood of the submission of fraudulent applications for the permanent employment of aliens in the United States by proposing a 45-day deadline for employers to file approved permanent labor certifications in support of a petition with the Department of Homeland Security. The Final Rule expressly prohibits the sale, barter, or purchase of permanent labor certifications or applications, as well as related payments. The proposed rule also addresses enforcement mechanisms to protect program integrity, including debarment with appeal rights. These amendments would apply to employers using both the Application for Alien Employment Certification (Form ETA 750) or the Application for Permanent Employment Certification (Form ETA 9089).

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    i got the above info from the OMB website below -

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoViewRule?ruleID=269657



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  • ss_col
    08-12 04:35 PM
    I filed 2 140's:

    1. 140 and 485 concurrently at the TSC on Aug 6th 2007 based on the EB2, India, May 06 labor . This 140 is not approved.

    2. Filed second 140 based on Mar 05 labor on Dec 14th 2007 at TSC- EB2, India. Both are with the same company. This got approved on Aug 8th, 08.

    How do I link the approved 140 to my 485? Do I need to fill in any form or do I need to talk to TSC or send them letter with approved 140 and 485 copy.

    Would appreciate inputs.





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  • HumJumboHathuJumbo
    09-23 04:57 PM
    you are buying a house. they are to give gc in return for us pumping money into the system which otherwise would not have come in

    its not about their feelings or yours... there is a law and IV is trying to change the law by a legitimate process. do not use words like bribe which refer to improper personal payments for benefits that dont belong.



    the new law should decide that... the discussion is open...

    It should be under EB5 category since its an investment. How do you go from being a qualified skilled worker taking a job in US because no US ciitizen is available, to being qualified to buy a house?.



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  • lord_labaku
    02-13 12:32 AM
    Before the Y2K problem, the most common route for Indians to migrate to the US (EB category) was this -->

    TOEFL
    GRE
    Admission into US university (most likely for masters)
    Scholarship or loan
    MS/Phd in US
    Internship using OPT
    Job/ H1

    Since this involved multiple non trivial steps; the barrier for entry was pretty high that prevented mass migration.

    There were procedural delays (in some states with a lot of Indian population ( oh yeah; labor certs used to take 3-5 years esp in California, Texas & Northeast; but you could get labor cert faster in south dakota or such less densely populated places; but once you hit the 485 stage, you were certain of a GC within a few months )

    And then along with Y2K came TCS, Wipro, Infosys, & infinite other bodyshops that suddenly changed the equation. No need for TOEFL, GRE. No need to fight for scholarship; no need for TA. no need for RA; no need for MS; in a lot of cases, no need for even UG degree in computers/engg. The requirements ranged from having all 10 fingers in place to knowing the right people in the bodyshop company to land an assignment in the US. Once placed at a client site, it was just a matter of finding the right opportunity to get the client to sponsor your H1. I am sure there were a lot other ways the H1 & L1 visas were abused.

    So the situation changed from just procedural delays to procedural delays + extra influx of Indians due to H1/L1 visa misuse.

    Ofcourse, we can only blame the inefficiencies of the USCIS/INS/DOL system & silently turn the other way when malpractices & visa abuse were rampant (I guess still is) in the IT bodyshop industry.

    I am sure this rant will seem extremely prejudicial. But just for a slight moment; think about why all this happened.





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  • Keeme
    05-12 03:25 PM
    I think this forum is the wrong place to discuss any of this. The thread must be deleted.

    I'm sorry, forgot to say ' GOOD BYE" when you declared 3 weeks back - you won't visit IV site any more and wanted to denounce your IV membership.

    May I ask, what made you to change your mind ?

    Dear, you won't get a good farewell party here ! Pl help youself !



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  • ramus
    07-04 10:57 AM
    I noticed that too but I thought may be they just putting rough nuumber and not exact..
    But you are right there were 3,185 highest ever..


    The following from IV's press release is incorrect. The max # is 3,185

    The group's website has reported a record hit of 2,500 concurrent users since this morning.





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  • AirWaterandGC
    05-12 08:04 AM
    Thanks nozerd.
    Also if the judge finds it unreasonable that I stayed out of CA for more than 3 years, will I be allowed to at least live in CA for the remaining duration (time remaining out of 5 years), OR I will have to leave CA immediately once the judge does not like my reasons.

    Thanks again.

    A Canadian PR has the right to enter Canada (as opposed to a US PR who does not have the right and can be denied entrance by INS).
    If you have not met 2 in 5 yr obligation Canadian Immigration will question you but let you in. They will give you a date on which you will have a court date with Immigration judge. Then its up to judge and you. You will have to give good reason why you were out ( waiting for US GC is not a good reason ).

    Dont know about the reapplying part. Never heard of anyone having done it.



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  • BharatPremi
    07-11 12:48 PM
    BharatPremi,

    Same applies to you.. If you are so crazy about Bharat, what are you doing here.... HEHEHE. Just thought that it was kinda funny statement because of your name....BharatPremi --- :D

    My "Avtar Name" is "BharatPremi" not "BharatVasi" To do "Prem" you do not have to be "vasi":)





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  • BECsufferer
    04-01 12:58 PM
    If Imran khan has come in to politics why not Azharuddin ?

    We can keep guessing but you know who is the right guy ,

    :D:D:D

    I remeber how brutal Imran used to be to Indian openers with his deadly in-swinger. Those were days of good cricket ... a classy cricket. Outside cricket Imran still commands respect for being honorable and honest person.

    On other hand our Azhar is one of those who will sell his own mother for money. A disgrace to cricket world. Comparing him to Imran is like comparing Lion in Jungle to a Hyenna ( no disrespect to reading Hyenna).

    Few years back bunch of cricketers originating from AP here in MI sponsored him and his wife to visit here. I was invited by come and shake hand and photograph with this bookie and his beautiful wife. Majority of people having self-respect politely rejected the invitation. Now I hear he is trying to become bookie in New Delhi. Good Luck!



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  • samay
    07-14 06:43 AM
    Hi,
    I (EB3-India, PD Nov 2002) got approved last year. We were only able to file my wife;s I-484 days before my approval. We are still waiting for her GC as my PD is no longer current. Is there any way she can get her GC quickly?

    Thanks,
    485_spouse

    Sorry she will have to wait for the your PD to get current.





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  • thakurrajiv
    06-27 07:42 AM
    I don't know how much to trust these sources. I am very nervous though.
    I understand that the visa number is reduced once 485 is approved. But rememeber that in 2005 dates were current and thousands of applications got filed.Most of the applications were pre-adjusted and just need number to be assigned.So in July, there is possibility that many applications can get approved and they can get approved fast !!
    I am in the same boat as everyone else. Just wanted to share my worries.



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  • meridiani.planum
    09-23 04:58 PM
    I second that. I am waiting for my GC before I make such a huge commitment to this country.

    Exactly, but what if they give you GC immediately if you buy a house? Win-win for both you and the government.





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  • ujjwal_p
    05-11 05:00 PM
    I completely agree with you.

    As a Tamil, I too carry the Indian passport with shame and can't wait to see the day when I become a US citizen.

    Let me be the first to say, all the best to you to get the US citizenship fast... and more importantly good riddance... And all the best for Americans to get a model citizen like you. By the way, I hope you do know about the oath you need to take to become an American. Hope you do that sincerely and are not narrow-minded then.



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  • angelfire76
    01-14 03:38 PM
    I agree completely. I fail to understand why people are so upset with this development. Your life will be better in the long run. Cant you all see ?

    cinqsit

    Nobody's arguing against cracking down on these layers of contracting. The "third-party worksite" applies to almost all IT services companies nowadays. That is what is not very clear about the memo.





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  • software7
    05-31 07:06 PM
    this pending I485 applications include dependents





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  • chanduv23
    09-04 08:06 AM
    Please stop this unnecessary useless discussion here. And I am not "_truefacts". Folks, just like how u do IT or medicine, for politicians - politics is a career. They do whatever they can to be in power and in developing countries like India where unfortunately, corrpution still exists. Corrpution exists everywhere in different forms. Don't we all pay for EAD and AP every year because our country is retrogressed? Don't we all pay for MTR when we do everything based on law?

    One has to accpept the reality and live with it and try to bring about the change within one's parameters.

    People can argue just for the sake of arguements - but the reality is that we are all in it together. If there is an issue that affects all of us, it affects all of us - period. We can argue and counter argue but unless we all get on the same page and understand that there needs to be a solution rather than trask talk, things are not going to change for us.

    Lets concentrate on what we are in this organization for.





    newbee7
    07-04 07:45 AM
    Under the section "Why does it hurt?

    Lawyers who charged upwards of $2000 for filing will not refund the service fee, so candidates have to pay again when dates become current in future.

    The biggest loss is the trust, coz, next time people will not believe these mid month bulletins at all as they can come around anytime and revise the dates. So, applicants will always have to live in fear untill they receive the receipt.
    Macacca,

    Fantastic job!

    Can you please add to why does it hurt:

    Many had to take MMR vaccine and hence postpone their plans to have kids by 3-6 months as recommended by NIH.

    For "Spouse can work" we might want to word it such that it just does not look like one job less for Americans. Something like spouse can excersise the freedom to get out of the house and contribute to the emarican economy.





    Lasantha
    10-17 10:12 AM
    Hello everyone,

    Those of you who had gone thru this process may be able to help me. My 7 year old daughter is a US citizen. If my family applies for Canadian PR, do I have to apply for PR for her also?. I have heard that US citizens do not need any permission to live in Canada. Any insight is appreciated.

    Thanks
    alexander

    Not true. She must be included in the application. US citizens can enter Canada without a visa as a visitor. But to become a PR and live and work up there they need the landed immigrant status (PR) just like everybody else.

    And by the way, here is a great forum exclusively for Canadian immigration matters. http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33

    You guys will get better help in that forum because this one (ImmigrationVoice) is primarily a US immigration forum.

    Lasantha



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