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  • gc28262
    06-12 12:40 AM
    People need to understand that you need to give some to win some. I would like to propose to IV a kind of proposal that would be a win win for both the immigrants and the US.
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    dilipcr,

    Don't tell us you are trying to save america for americans ( now that you are going to be a citizen)

    You are just trying to close the door behind you.
    You think Grassley bill is good for everyone. Yeah sure it is good for you !

    You have begun to think like loosers guild( aka programmers guild)

    You claim the fittest will survive and you don't need any luck to survive. However you had your round of layoffs too. That is a fact of american job market. Luck does play a lot in people's lives especially here in US. I have heard of an IBM engineer who was laid off during 2001 recession. He had 2 patents under his belt. So nobody is immune to luck factor.

    Now that you have become a GC holder and soon going to be a citizen, you are so much worried about the wage levels and and L1 visas. You are ok with H1Bs because you were on H1B earlier in your life.

    Did you ever worry about depressing citizen's wages when you were on H1B ?

    It is one thing to be so self centered, another to say it aloud on a prospective immigrant's forum like IV.

    BTW america is the best place to do business. If you feel threatened by more work force entering USA, become an entrepreneur like Vivek Wadhwa, not a loser like Ron Hira.

    Aren't we Indians a bunch of crabs !





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  • actaccord
    01-13 08:31 PM
    at least one person could respond in more civilized and matured way. These kind of response will give good impression about a forum.

    Guys please keep your comments in more civilized way to keep/gain good public image of the forum.

    I do read most of the threads in this forum (whenever I feel free) i feel some of members who are donors/senior members feel they can get to fight (in abusive way) with any one on any thread no matter whether it spoils the image of forum or their response adds no value to the thread. These kind of attitude can be expected from new members as they may have wrong intentions (or to just vent their frustrations) to join in a forum. But people who are very senior and donors responding in uncivilized manner is not good for them as well as the forum.

    I don't see anything wrong PlainSpeak's suggestion but I can't comment on if her suggestion is workable or not. But we can just explain what is right or wrong instead of getting into fight mode.

    I would like to see some kind of administration control (removing the response, warning the members) on those threads with abusive/uncivilized response. I know it is tedious job but once we have senior/donors under civilized conversation controlling new members will be of easier as seniors/donors can report those unwanted conversations.

    It would be great place to share ideas (good, bad, right, wrong) if those uncivilized response is reduced. The lesser the uncivilized response more the people willing to join hands.

    I wanted to join hands but those uncivilized comments keeping me away from participating. I do have friends who joined after me referring felt the same, some even stopped visiting this forum after seeing uncivilized fightings.

    There are great people like amitjoey who convey the message in more civilized way (as far as I have seen) and help others (its not easy to post 1100+ posts....). I am new to this country and have very less experience and knowledge to share. But I hope one day I can guide/help some people like amitjoey.

    Reason for me to share my thought is amitjoey, otherwise I would have just gone through the thread and felt bad about this forum for uncivilized comments. I am not into any group yet (Eb2/3) as my comp is not going to sponsor gc as per new policy, so I don't belong to any group (or we can say group who's gc never filed). When I read PlainSpeak's comment I thought she was right and after reading amitjoey's comment I learned another view for this issue. After reading those two comments I understand the issue and why IV took different direction or direction different from PlainSpeak's. But when I continued reading this thread I felt why some educated people with good intentions have bad thoughts and respond to others in uncivilized way. In the whole thread only two comments make's sense to me rest doesn't belong/fit to this forum.

    Lets get more new members and be civilized to gain confident which will gain more strength to the forum.


    Do not overanalyze any bill- All these bills are mere drafts until they come on floor for debate, and even after that they go thru amendments, rewriting, and the final bill comes out in most cases to be very different from the original. Even after the bill is passed in both houses, the committees that are responsible in reconciling the bill will tweak it and fine tune it.
    This means that even good provisions can be deleted at any time during the debate, thru an amendment lobbied by the antis- if the EB Community is not vigilant.
    To give you an insight: In Dec 2005, there was a line item in a bill that would have recaptured visas for EB applicants, the bill was passed – and at the last minute this provision was deleted.


    IF you read through the provisions and the paper that IV created for lobby days in July 2010- Each one of the provisions and the underlying text that IV is asking for has been written with clear understanding of the issues EB applicants face- It is written in a way that if incorporated in any of the bills as an amendment- will give fair and balanced numbers to all categories -EB3, EB2.

    So, regardless of which bill (Immigrant friendly) comes on the floor- IV will lobby to have this package included as an amendment. Or IV will lobby to get this inserted into the main bill.

    So- Please, do not get worked up about EB3 vs EB2. OR India vs China vs World

    The real work is to be vigilant about what bill has the chance to come on the floor and then lobby to get the amendments included.

    There are bigger issues for our community- Not one immigrant friendly bill has come up for debate in the last 4 years (exception is the dream act). And here the IV Community is debating and fighting about provisions about one of 100 bills that might never see a chance on the floor.

    The big battle is to advocate and lobby at grassroots to get a bill to come on the floor- persuade lawmakers to be cosponsors for a bill that will help us, and then when the bill is up for debate, we can talk about what we should include as amendments or insert in the main bill to make it fair for everybody.





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  • mallu
    02-13 02:00 PM
    Well, i see only congress can do it. But still, in the EB skill based immigration that law is barbarian. Do companies find the much needed critical talent based on country of birth ?



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  • Macaca
    07-04 10:42 AM
    I am developing a general framework in which you can plug in your own traumatic experience. The following is a good start. Please develop your own writeups.

    From then on it was a scramble to fulfill a long list of requirements to be able to apply on time. The first task was for my husband to convince his HR to sponsor the process. Since they had already budgeted for the fiscal year and are on a spending freeze , it took a lot of convincing . The HR complied and gratefully we set out to get our Medical exams (at own cost of 150*2).Since we live in a small state with few doctors we drove 2 hours to a neighboring state to get them on time.

    Being a mother of 3 small kids, I could not work on important paper works with them around. So after putting them to bed we spent the entire night pulling out the required documents from archives and placing them in order; numerous phone calls to parents back in India to collect their date of birth, place of birth information and completed the questionnaire.

    Got passport pictures(60$) and mailed it all to our lawyers praying it will be one of the first to reach the department office on start of business on July 2nd.

    The following are very good points that need more polish! The main point here is that we really can not understand this CRAP wih all other things in life which Americans are not facing!

    We are raising families here, our everyday life is no different from any other AMERICAN middle class family with same expectations and hopes, so its not easy to presume that we can pull out or get out of this situation and return to our home countries.

    Patience is not just a virtue but a way of life for thousands of Legal immigrants who have been living in the US for a number of years . Besides the everyday stress of Job,Mortgage,Health and education of their children they live with the added suspense of when their application for permanent residency ,commonly referred as "Green card" will move ahead from its deep slumber.





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  • micofrost
    03-27 05:18 PM
    Imaginne this, we get a fast trak citizenship process to Bill Clinton. Anyway, we Indians luv him so much, more than his wife or daughter would to him.

    And he will definitely win, make him the PM. With Obama in US and Bill Clinton from India, we can defintely lobby for our GCs and then India-US, will be new bhai-bhai....



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  • Macaca
    07-03 08:30 PM
    Pleeeeeeeeease blog at Employment Based (EB) Skilled Immigration Applicants (http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?boardid=1042&threadid=314286&BoardsParam=HIPDelay=1&PostID=7628691)

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  • snathan
    08-16 06:06 PM
    Its just highlighting the profiling because of name of religion or skin color. I agree world is not going to end but Indians need to be assertive to protect their own dignity.

    In that case we have to do it everyday...not only when SRk was detained. are you doing that...no. Why?



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  • samay
    08-11 01:02 PM
    Please help what's the next step?

    My Case info in chronological order:
    PD: June 2006
    I-140 applied: September 2006
    EAD and I-485 applied: July 2007
    EAD received: September 2007
    I-140 RFE: October 2007
    I-140 RFE Replied: October 2007
    I-140 Denied: January 2008
    I-485 Denied: January 2008
    MTR filed: February 2008 (status not known)
    EAD renewal filed: June 2008
    H1B renewal filed: July 2008 "1st H1B expiring: October 2008"
    EAD renewal Denied: August 2008

    Working on H1B right now, still have 3 more yrs.

    You can file a Motion to reopen. Please contact me if you want further consultation on the same.





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  • Macaca
    01-15 07:53 PM
    I would argue that Indian consulting biggies saw that they could offer resources to clients at much cheaper rates than offered by American consulting companies. That drove down billing rates for everyone.

    On the other hand if American consulting companies bill high rates to clients, they are at leat still paying decent wages to their employees. So wages stay at moderate levels. But what This whole tiered employement brought into play was that the actual employee was not getting paid too much but the client would still pay quite a bit, maybe not as much as what an American consulting company would bill. The wages of IT professionals went down.

    Also one cannot deny the fact that persons who faked their resumes have contributed to the decline of the quality of talent pool. Don't get me wrong, bad apples existed and thrived in both big and small companies. But the occurences of such misdeed is/was more rampant in body shops. Some examples are the hiring of fresh grads & H4 & other unskilled workers and passing them off as "high skilled resource".


    No one knows the impact of outsourcing. Because no public data is available unlike H1b or L1.

    If american public gets exact data about outsourcing then they will oppose that also and goverment has to act.

    But there is no legal binding for Government or Corporations to give data about outsourcing.


    Durbin/Grassley bill will check them also. But it will impact some good people also. We are opposing that because many of IV members may be impacted by that.

    Also most IV members feel that bill is conspiracy to eliminate h1b program. There is no easy solution for these issues.

    If they relax the rules fraud will increase and if they tighten it then some good persons also impacted.

    You have unbounded capacity for posting complete gargage.

    My morning post, deleted by IV geniuses, was for this garbage that dominates IV boards: a self inflicted wound.



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  • vbkris77
    09-15 12:48 PM
    How did you say that are Only EB2+ EB3?

    Apart from EB2, EB3 what else would need a PERM?





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  • ita
    03-30 01:13 PM
    I didn't know Lord Rama was part of BJP's manifesto this time.
    You are so stuck with 90's. MMS brought economic reforms in 90's so he's reforms guy even though he didn't bring any in his current term.
    LK was Lord Rama guy in 90's so he is Lord Rama guy even now.Just check BJP manifesto this time.

    Santhan and the like(s)...I'm just breaking it down here...

    Like I said in my previous posts religion is played heavily by MMS govt (read as Sonia...I'm sure MMS is a nice person) 4000 Missionaries came to India in last 5 years.More 4000 may come if you give them chance.Now nothing wrong with it generally speaking (except that only christian missionaries were granted visas and Jewsih groups were denied visas) but something wrong if we go by your 'I'don't care if Sankaracharya is jailed,I don't care for lord Rama guys' attitude.

    Now these missionaries are setting up miracle boxes ,so far in rural areas, where poor people that drop their wishes in the box see miracles happening.Only hitch is entire family has to convert to Christianity.Yeah abuse of poverty.But there is discrimination (hoping that when you speak of poor you speak of poor of all religions)even in miracles.Some how these missionaries don't dare to mess with Muslim poor.So Muslim poor are left alone. Neither your MMS wrapped State does anything to alleviate their poverty nor these missionaries shower their miracles on them.

    BTW it's not poor and Sankaracharya alone there are also other religious(for now Hindu) leaders in their list(Satya Sai Baba, Mata Amritanandamayee, Shri Shri Ravi Shanker Maharaj and many more) Now what's common in them apart from being Hindu leaders they are also immensely into helping your favorite poor people (no conversions though,you don't want to believe me just check out Mata Amritanandamayee's social service camps not for just Hindus all over the world.)

    Now if a doctor doesn't get patients how will he survive?
    Same way how will missionaries conduct their business if the poor and needy are helped .It's assured State won't help these poor population.Those who are helping them should go to jails so their popularity gets a dent among the masses.(not that their service stops anyways) So you MMS wrapper is facilitating all this.

    I know too much stuff but our biased/bought media won't highlight these facts.Remember how A.P High court held media for setting up a 'media trial' even before anything was proved in Sankaracharya case?(nothing was proved till date but since you don't care let's not go there)

    So your favorite MMS govt was busy with such things so far.

    I know ignorance is bliss but know that bliss will not last long.



    I am not saying MMS is the best....but better than others. Do you believe the so called Left the savior of our country. I am not bothering who is ruling or not. My only worry - what is done for our future. I strongly believe Left was the speed bump to the development of the country. Mr.Advani dont have anything but Ram Temple. I hardly see any value in that. He runs his politics based on religon and Ram temple. Let him put the plan and vision for out future, to build stronger India....I will be the first one to vote for him.



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  • unitednations
    02-18 10:15 PM
    I understand that there is concern about people from visitor visa category (Tourist B1 B2)would be filing for green cards and that shall cause the retrogression to be perpetual...a few adjustments to the applicable statute can rectify that...

    Yes, it can't be blanket filing. If there is a time limit to it; or a restriction that it can only be done from H-1b visa then it would take care of this issue if the priority date isn't current.

    However, the e-mail I posted a few posts back would not prevent that person because their priority date would be current; they could also go for consular route since date is current.





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  • snathan
    01-24 02:16 PM
    Kindly visit this forum
    USCIS new memo on Employer-Employee relationship - Topic Powered by Infopop (http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=4234032861&m=1181028202&p=2)
    and see yourself how people differ on this memo. It seems so many people are happy about this memo for the following reason:
    1. They are not affected by this memo ( for sure ).
    2. They are fed up with Body Shoppers.

    You can not ask them to change as they have their own take on this memo.
    Personally after reading so many scenarios I don't support this memo.

    They may not be affected by this memo and they are day dreaming they wont be affected in the future also. This is just starting and you never know what USCIS and antis are planning. This memo is very unfair for people who are in this country 5-10 years and stuck in the GC backlog. Assume that people who are in full time fired...what they will do. Just they will run this body shop. Then they will understand what this is all about. I personally do not like people suffering for no reason.



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  • Openarms
    05-29 12:38 PM
    this exactly I thought when I read this
    "When asked about the potential cutoff dates for EB3 India, China, and Mexico, Mr. Oppenheim said that it would depend on the demand for these categories over the rest of FY2009"

    What demand? Aren't these categories already "Unavailable" for the rest of FY2009? What will generate the demand? His earlier statements seem to suggest they have a pretty good handle on the number of cases pending and the EB categories and chargeabilities of those cases. Should'nt they already have a pretty good handle on the demand? On one hand, Mr. Oppenheim is throwing out numbers like they've got it all figured out...and immediately after that he makes a statement which implies they haven't a clue!





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  • gcvision2010
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  • newtogc
    10-02 11:39 PM
    Hi All,

    One company offered me pre-approved labour, with PD as Dec-2004. They are mentioning that I can file i140 immediately as soon as my H1-B transffered to new company.
    I have been hearing the news about LC substitution elimination. Any authentic news regarding this? Even if the USCIS publish the news regarding the elimination of LC substitution, Will it undergo the hearing / comment process. During this time can I apply for i140?

    Is it better to take this LC( all the criteria required for sub is matched) or apply a new labour under PERM process.
    Currently I am in my first H1-B and valid till Oct 2007.

    In similar line, what are 45 day letters? Does it apply to my case.

    Please need experts advice in this regard.

    Thanks,
    BNR.





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  • sodh
    01-27 08:55 PM
    Can please somebody reply, is this a non profit organisation or everytime somebody ask's some innocent question he is bombarded with counter questions like have you contributed, I can understand the frustations when there are freebee's but please everybody has his limitations,this reminds of bania's in mumbai you will get your your grocerries only if you have paid your previous debt's. Please don't force anybody, this makes every core members feel cheap, if somebody has to contribute he will contribute out of guilt out, of appreciation,out of obligation, we have not forgotten our dharma that is to help anybody that helps us.





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  • arc
    07-08 07:18 PM
    Dear Sir/Madam

    Thank you for helping us.

    Scenario:
    If one is working with company A on H1 and Company B applies a future employment GC for the person. The Person received EAD/AP for the 485 which is pending from 1 year through company B. Also have a valid and stamped H1 for 3 years from company A.

    Now in this case:

    1) Is there a Law or Need to Join company B since EAD has been issued?

    2) Can one stick with company A even after getting EAD till he gets GC? In that case is AC21 required to remain with Company A?

    3) Can one Join new Company X and use AC21?

    I really appriciate your community service, thanks in advance!





    PlainSpeak
    01-14 04:34 PM
    I did not see any plan yet. Basically he is wasting time with opinions from behind.
    Can you (waiting) provide me with the details such as timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities for any plans you have. No i am sure you will ask some one senior for it and you know what none of the junior members would know anything about that

    Why the hell should i now layout any plan with detail of timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities just because you decide to ask for it. Who are you to ask. What the hell ddi you contribute to this post except for abuses

    Has there any discussion on the topic from you you @#$#@$@#$X#%^^@#!$#$
    Have you come up and even stated about what you like or do not like about this plan. Have you ever been polite to any one on this forum

    Ok you know what if i agree to the point that all this is junk will you keep off this post?





    vdlrao
    07-25 07:55 PM
    See we came to know from our calculations there are about 10 times increase in EB2 India visas. So that means we are getting visas of 10 years in a single year!!!!!. But theres not much change in the demand of EB2. The demand is amost same as of the previous years. But the supply has increased to 10 times. So in two years, 2008 and 2009, we are getting of 20 years visas. So assuming there were no spill overs, and 20 years from now means in 2028 , wouldn't it be possible to clear off all the EB2s (with out spill overs) with the PDs on or before 2008. So does it make any sense of EB2 getting close to current very soon with the spill overs.



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