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  • vishal
    08-24 04:01 PM
    yes, our lawyer send a letter.





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  • k94
    12-15 09:43 AM
    Denied licenses, legal immigrants sue state Registry
    Say status wrongly contested
    By Yvonne Abraham, Globe Staff | December 15, 2006

    Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles employees are routinely and unlawfully denying driver's licenses to immigrants who are here legally, according to a class-action law suit filed yesterday.

    According to the suit, Registry workers asked the immigrants for proof of legal residency when they were not authorized to do so. The workers then denied licenses to the applicants, incorrectly concluding that the immigrants had not demonstrated they were in the United States legally, the suit alleges.

    In all cases, the immigrants' lawyers said, the Registry workers were overstepping their legal authority and violating the immigrants' constitutional rights.

    "They don't have the authority to enforce federal immigration law," said Sarah Wunsch, staff attorney for the ACLU of Massachusetts, who is representing the seven immigrants who brought the suit. "But they've taken it upon themselves to do it, and they're doing it wrong. It's not an isolated case here and there. This appears to be policy."

    Wunsch said hundreds of other immigrants have similarly been denied licenses.

    A spokeswoman for the Registry of Motor Vehicles declined to comment, saying Registry lawyers had not yet had a chance to review the lawsuit.

    Under state policy, applicants for a driver's license must present proof of their identity by providing a valid Social Security number, which the Registry checks against a Social Security Administration database.

    In order to obtain a valid Social Security number, an immigrant must be in the country legally. Applicants must also show proof of their age and address.

    All of the plaintiffs presented valid Social Security numbers when they applied for licenses, Wunsch said. Even so, Registry workers rejected their applications.

    In some of the cases, applicants were not given any reason why they were rejected. In the others, Registry employees improperly sought additional proof of the applicants' immigration status and then said the documents were not adequate.

    Registry spokeswoman Amy Breton, speaking generally, said Registry employees do not enforce immigration laws.

    But she added: "Certainly, we've had to become more familiar with immigration documents. We want to make sure we are issuing licenses to Massachusetts residents, because that is what the law calls for."

    She said the Registry has been responsive to complaints that immigrants have been treated unfairly. On Wednesday night, the head of the agency, Registrar Anne L. Collins, met with about 300 immigrants and their advocates in Hyannis to hear their concerns about the license application process, she said.

    In many cases, Breton said, immigrants who feel they have been unfairly denied a license can file an appeal, which costs $50.

    Lawyers for the seven plaintiffs say their clients should not have to spend money to challenge what is clearly a discriminatory practice.

    "The Registry seems to be asking immigrants to produce justification for their presence in the United States," said lead attorney Kenneth Berman of Nutter McClennen & Fish.

    The lawyers said that the problems demonstrate the danger of having state employees who are not trained in immigration law taking on enforcement of that law.

    Two immigrant advocacy groups are also plaintiffs in the suit, alleging that the Registry's discrimination against immigrants forces them to divert time and resources from other activities.

    "This is extremely common," said Desmond FitzGerald, an immigration lawyer who represents four immigrants who were denied licenses in a separate case to be heard early next year. "We want the Registry to regulate the safety of our roads, not enforce immigration rules."

    One of FitzGerald's clients, the wife of a prominent Spanish scientist who is in the United States on a visa reserved for persons of exceptional ability, was denied a license because Registry workers who asked for proof of her legal residency did not recognize her visa. After she sued the Registry, the agency settled the case, granting her a license.

    One of the plaintiffs in the class action suit filed yesterday is an immigrant from Zimbabwe who has a pending application for asylum. The woman, a nurse, has work authorization and had already been granted a driver's license.

    When she tried to renew that license this week, she produced her old license, her Social Security number, and proof of her car insurance coverage, which showed her address. Still, she was asked for her passport.

    The woman, who fled political persecution in Zimbabwe, does not have a current, government-issued passport from that country. She showed the Registry employee a document showing that the US government had granted her permission to remain here. Her application was still denied, as was her daughter's application for a learner's permit.

    "Given how dependent we all are on the right to drive an automobile, the denial of a license is causing real hardship to the people I represent," Berman said.

    The issue of driver's licenses for immigrants has become highly charged over the past year, as the national debate on immigration has grown more fractious.

    The question of issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants was a matter of fierce dispute during this year's gubernatorial race, in which Governor-elect Deval Patrick said he would consider giving licenses to those who are here illegally. He was pilloried for that suggestion by his opponent, Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey, who with Governor Mitt Romney has taken an aggressive stance against illegal immigration.

    Immigrants' advocates said they worry that the Republican administration's zeal is causing Registry employees to punish immigrants who had followed all the rules.





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  • pappu
    02-06 08:25 PM
    Please send us an email at info at immigrationvoice.org with the details of this denial so that we can look into your case.





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  • jaane_bhi_do_yaaro
    01-14 10:13 PM
    One of my colleagues, got his GC last yr (EB2, PD 2006) in Aug. 2008 even though his receipt date (Aug. 2007 as per receipt by Texas center)
    was not honored.
    I believe that even receipt date is not honored if the case has cleared all formalities and PD is current.



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  • srikondoji
    07-14 08:32 PM
    Let me stop with final words.

    I only came to know about USINPAC recently with this flowergate.
    And i don't know about USINPAC mission or robinder.

    But, if USINPAC is such a great organization, then IV and USINPAC should sit together and support each other.

    Let us forget the mess and we all know the whole world acknowledged IV for flower campaign.

    --sri

    please stop this.





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  • VMH_GC
    07-11 10:32 AM
    Called USINPAC (General Inquiry 202-628-3451) talked to one Amit Patel. told him our efforts with regard to the flower campaign.

    Robinder Schadeva who claims to be the coordinated of this campaign is in India right now and the guy I talked to does not have any clue about the flower campaign..............................


    I just called this number and left a voice message with the earful of information about their fradualent activity.



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  • ItIsNotFunny
    04-09 02:32 PM
    Yes very nicely put.

    Yes all of you that are posting on this thread. please leave USA and go back home. Lets see how many people actually do it.

    Its a good thing, and I fully support it. Afterall it will make my line shorter and wait lesser.

    Little harsh but true.





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  • aknynd
    12-11 10:32 PM
    I think this will work...If we start sweeping ROADS in front on NYSE, NASDAQ and all major TV stations in NYC ...it wilkl definitelt draw lots n lots of media attention



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  • chanduv23
    07-08 02:53 PM
    Thought I'd offer an alternate view on the AC21 letters. I switched jobs after my I-485 had been pending 180 days, and my attorneys advised me to NOT send in an AC21 letter. They said, "Chances are, you will not get an RFE, and if you do, you can send in the AC21 letter at that time. If you do send in an AC21 letter, you will definitely get an RFE". These attorneys had always given me excellent advice in the past, so I have not submitted an AC21 letter.

    - GS

    Ask your lawyer, what happpens when previous employer revokes 140 petition. The answer will be, "As USCIS does not know that you ported off, they will send a NOID and we will respond to the NOID. If they send a denial by mistake, we will reopen your case using MTR"





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  • gg_ny
    03-17 09:40 PM
    Patton Boggs is a lobbyist hired by IV, Can he help in this situation ? It may be the case he already may be working to get something thru ..

    we all write to Bernake that some 10, 000 immigrants will buy homes if we all get a GC. 10, 000 may or may not buy a home, but let us just polish the numbers a little bit. 10,000 * 300,000 (average home price) = 1 million billion dollars . Actually the total figure is 3 billion $$; enough to give a massive jolt to the sagging economy.

    mails by albertpinto

    please do not stop posting like the above just because some walking_dude has tried 650 times to sound serious and bring sense. your postings are really energizing and hilarious in these difficult times. I work for a firm contracting from the Big Bear and in these difficult times postings like these, particularly albertpinto's, are soothing for their comic sense (sounds as though the writer meant what he/she posted).



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  • vparam
    10-19 01:43 AM
    I have been now for 7 years and still waiting... my wife who graudated law with top honors in a top university in india and was pracicing with a leading corporate law firm joined me in US and to make it good we spent around $65K on her law school graduation here and then another 15K on bar exams preparations for NY and CA. She managed to pull through all this. we decided to have a baby and take care of her wihtout day care the 1st 2years. now my wife sits home since she cannot file a H1 though there are willing employers becuase she has stayed here for 6 years on h4 and my llabor filed 2001 was still in BEC.... what can i do... i left a Director job in fortune 50 company and joined as consultant so that i can make use of a pre-approved labor, then another regression happend and i am still waiting to file 485. I just want to let my wife to work for a couple of year and make use of the effort she spent in her US law school and bar exams and want to return back to India.... but when can i get that 2 years.....





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  • belmontboy
    03-15 11:26 PM
    Comtting a crime and trying to blame it on others for that....

    is that what you are supporting?

    Don't jump without understanding my comments.

    what makes you come to conclusion that i am supporting him?

    we shouldnot judge others without understanding circumstances. Even if he has intentionally comitted crime, he is going to answer to God for this sooner for later.

    some "shoplifters" are not theives.



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  • gdhiren
    07-06 02:34 PM
    Are they even filing a lawsuit ?? If they are SO READY, where is the big press release saying USCIS SUED !!!!!!! :cool:
    Again have faith. Everything needs planning, they are a non-profit organization working for our cause, at least this time. First they need people to come forward and give the details, also they want to give us enough time so we can be ready with our case. Most important question here is, are we doing our part? there are many things we could do to help them and ourselves.





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  • styrum
    02-09 02:24 PM
    I couldn't really find any information about the appeal process on the LC once it is denied. the ironic thing is that my first LC was approved then after I got promoted to a senior position and applied for a second LC, the 2nd LC was denied because they think there is no difference between the 1st and 2nd position. does the DOL have an automatic system that processes the LC and that why it coudn't see the difference between the 2 positions??
    where can i find more info about the appeal process?? any links to go to??

    Styrum: did your lawyer give you any info on how long the appeal process takes? and the probability of success in the appeal?? Thanks
    The appeal process is described in PERM regulations:

    http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/PERM_Final_Rule_12-27-04_FR.pdf

    4-6 months that's what I heard from an attorney. The reason I am preparing 2nd filing is that the chance of approval of my first PERM on appeal is slim. Yes the initial reason for denial is bogus, but they may still deny it because of "too restrictive requirements"



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  • anilnag
    03-29 12:44 AM
    Guys MY PD is feb 2008. I am recently watching vias bulletins. I am in EB2.
    Based on my watching previous visa bulletions ( after sep 2008) I dont see that it makes major difference if you file in EB3 or EB2.
    Both are backloged very much and sincearly I dont hope inspite on being in EB2, I will get EAD or GC till 2015.

    What are your thoughts, is it worth filing in EB2?

    I think it's worth filing in EB2 if you can. The way spillover is working right now, EB2 India is greatly benefitted. Also whatever data someone got from USCIS (through senator inquiry), there are less EB2 India pending (~50,000) than EB3 (~70,000) until July 2007.

    Last year India EB2 got ~15000 visa numbers. If the trend continues then within 3 years India EB2 cutoff will reach 2007. This is way better than EB3I, which I don't think will cross even 2003 within next 3 years.

    Please contribute for FOIA cause, which will give us more data for predictions. Hopefully we can predict with 80% or better accuracy once FOIA data is with us..





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  • Hassan11
    02-09 01:36 PM
    My first PERM (through company A) was denied, as I told before, just because the PERM software automatically denies application with requirements that exceed "normal" SVP level. (Moreover, it accuses you in claiming that the requirements are normal, even if you didn't claim that!) I am not preparing a second appeal. I am preparing a second PERM filing through another company.


    I couldn't really find any information about the appeal process on the LC once it is denied. the ironic thing is that my first LC was approved then after I got promoted to a senior position and applied for a second LC, the 2nd LC was denied because they think there is no difference between the 1st and 2nd position. does the DOL have an automatic system that processes the LC and that why it coudn't see the difference between the 2 positions??
    where can i find more info about the appeal process?? any links to go to??

    Styrum: did your lawyer give you any info on how long the appeal process takes? and the probability of success in the appeal?? Thanks



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  • lost_in_migration
    05-10 03:08 PM
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  • shantak
    08-06 08:32 PM
    Did you call this number: (800) 375 � 5283? The lady I spoke to did not give me any information. I guess I have to keep trying. BTW are you SRC or LIN ?

    Thanks!

    Yes I called the same number and used the POJ method as mentioned in this thread. Mine is SRC though.





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  • logiclife
    08-27 12:52 PM
    What if DMV refuses to renew the license if I-94/H1 is extended for 1 year (mostly in the case of H1 extension beyond 6th year) but is not stamped on your passport. This happened with me. DMV officer insisted on visa stamped on my passport and he was not ready to accept the I-797 form which I was showing. Finally, I've to go to other DMV and count on my luck to get my license renewed.
    This is a as much a problem with DMV as a problem with employees. I did not 100% agreed with your comments that it's a problem with an employer. Now a days even filing 6 months prior to expiration is not guranteed to give you a timely approval.
    In Florida, no matter if you have 1 yr or 3yrs I-94/Visa, they only issue you a license for 1 year. Period. Florida..anyway sucks.

    Also, can someone tell me, once you get an EAD, can we use that to get the license renewal?

    Yes, I agree with you. Asking for valid visa stamp is too much, the latest I-797 and latest valid I-94 should be enough to get driver's license, because latest valid I-94 proves that you are legal and that's enough. Passport stamp is not neccesary to prove legal status.

    The sad part is that employers should get involved with state legislature and state regulators, DMV etc to make sure their foriegn workers have ability to get driver's license based on approved I-797. Its a mess.





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    05-22 11:22 AM
    Seems they have taken down all servers.
    I predict all dates magically moving back in time.

    what do you mean moving back in time??





    gg_ny
    10-12 02:24 PM
    This posting is not to dishearten anyone but to make everyone aware of the obstacles on the path. I followed up on Science article and talked to Jim Austin, the
    lead for ScienceCareer efforts of Science journal group. The baseline of my conversation goes as: there is limited funding, limited opportunities even for US born scientists, then is it wise to "import on permanent basis" scientists from abroad?Yes, it is good to have the best here, but what we (USA) require is education and training of US-born first ...

    Take home message for us guys is this: These are the people the congress hears out first when they want to make policy changes. These are the people who were able to convince NIH to double its funding in 5 years time a couple of years back. These are the people who are now saying that there is no job and money for US-born, so first get more fundingand training for us citizens, before you get foreigners to carry out research ...

    It is obvious that the issue is becoming more and more acrimonious, entangled with a lot of other issues - both political and economic. Unless the retrogressed are willing to take this to heart and put up an intense effort, in coming years the matter is going to get worse. Next few months could be the only ***healthy*** window of time to achieve a remedy for retrogression. Not only the economy is driving anti-highskillimmigration groups more vocal, we are slowly finding the pro-immigrant support base thinning out because of very bad fiscal situations.




    great work everyone. thank you nycgal and others that took initiative and pushed this effort further. committed members like all of you in this thread help us a lot by sending emails to reporters. several letters highlighting a particular issue generates interest in reporters and media orgs and they choose to write about us. It is not easy to get even a single article published in newspapers and it is due to the efforts of our members, we are able to generate awareness. There is still a long road ahead of us and I am sure with active participation from everyone, we will surely succeed.



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