desi3933
06-18 03:06 PM
I am planning to file EAD/AP for my wife who is on H4 along with adjustment of status application. Will she continue on her H4 status till she gets EAD/AP?
There are 2 ways in which current H4 status changes to AOS Pending status:
1. By working on employment using EAD
2. The primary applicant loses H1-B status for ANY reason
Please check and verify details with your attorney/lawyer. This is NOT a legal advice.
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Permanent Resident since May 2002
There are 2 ways in which current H4 status changes to AOS Pending status:
1. By working on employment using EAD
2. The primary applicant loses H1-B status for ANY reason
Please check and verify details with your attorney/lawyer. This is NOT a legal advice.
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Permanent Resident since May 2002
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jnagendra
09-23 01:14 PM
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
The calendar says 1:00 PM EST.
The bill is to recapture 550,000 visas, Can we findout how many are EB based and how many are FB Based.
The calendar says 1:00 PM EST.
The bill is to recapture 550,000 visas, Can we findout how many are EB based and how many are FB Based.
sertha1
06-25 07:07 PM
H4 visa stamped until 09/30/2007.
H1B approval notice from 10/01/2006 to 09/30/2009.
Spouse H1B valid until 09/30/2007.
What would be the answer to DS-156:
30. Have You Ever Been Issued a U.S. Visa? Yes/No?
WHEN? (Most Recent) day/month/year ?
WHERE?
WHAT TYPE OF VISA?
Enter Additional Visa Issuances Here:
38. Have you ever violated the terms of a U.S. visa, or been unlawfully present in, or deported from, the United States?
Does visa means stamped in the passport or even the approval notice?
H1B approval notice from 10/01/2006 to 09/30/2009.
Spouse H1B valid until 09/30/2007.
What would be the answer to DS-156:
30. Have You Ever Been Issued a U.S. Visa? Yes/No?
WHEN? (Most Recent) day/month/year ?
WHERE?
WHAT TYPE OF VISA?
Enter Additional Visa Issuances Here:
38. Have you ever violated the terms of a U.S. visa, or been unlawfully present in, or deported from, the United States?
Does visa means stamped in the passport or even the approval notice?
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desi3933
06-25 07:15 AM
My wife does not ahve paystubs from Oct 06 to Dec 06 and no W2 for year 2006. SO I would need a absence letter. Any for mat of letter would be appreciated.
We have paystubs from jan 07 to Jun 07 and plan to leave in July after filing 485 and plan to re enter in August using unexpired H4 visa.
I know of someone who used unexpired H4 visa in spite of being on H1 before leaving US
Any issues with above scenario?
What is the approval date for her H1-B?
Using unexpired H4 visa for re-entry is no problem. At the time of entry in US, it does matter what status you were on last visit as long as one has not accumulated > 180 days in unlawful presence (i.e. stay beyond I-94 date).
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
We have paystubs from jan 07 to Jun 07 and plan to leave in July after filing 485 and plan to re enter in August using unexpired H4 visa.
I know of someone who used unexpired H4 visa in spite of being on H1 before leaving US
Any issues with above scenario?
What is the approval date for her H1-B?
Using unexpired H4 visa for re-entry is no problem. At the time of entry in US, it does matter what status you were on last visit as long as one has not accumulated > 180 days in unlawful presence (i.e. stay beyond I-94 date).
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
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spicy_guy
08-11 12:38 AM
Come on EB2 guys, even if it were to be real, you should be happy about it. 2 months moved forward. Then imagine EB3 I. :confused:
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abhijitp
03-10 02:12 PM
Interesting experiment, and I can see that is how human beings respond sometimes.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
Freakonomics and IV participation by EB3IFreakonomics
The guys from Freakonomics did an experiment in a Chicago school. They said they will give $50 to all students who will get a B or higher in all their subjects. After some time they have found out that students who were getting a grade in the vicinity of B earlier have improved their grades to B level. But the students who were already well below B, actually went down in the grading; from D to E for example. You can google for the details.
In the GC saga, what we need is a B grade or above.
EB3 Mexico already has a C grade, hence he tries hard to improve himself to a B grade.
EB3I is in D grade. We more or less feel that trying hard is a waste of our time. If we try hard, we might get a C grade (means EB2I folks will get GCs :( :( ). The end result is that we go from D to E. That is what you are really seeing.
PS: despite the above generalization, I am planning to participate in the advocacy days in DC and I have already contributed to the efforts. Because human beings defy logic and what is natural to other life forms on earth.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
Freakonomics and IV participation by EB3IFreakonomics
The guys from Freakonomics did an experiment in a Chicago school. They said they will give $50 to all students who will get a B or higher in all their subjects. After some time they have found out that students who were getting a grade in the vicinity of B earlier have improved their grades to B level. But the students who were already well below B, actually went down in the grading; from D to E for example. You can google for the details.
In the GC saga, what we need is a B grade or above.
EB3 Mexico already has a C grade, hence he tries hard to improve himself to a B grade.
EB3I is in D grade. We more or less feel that trying hard is a waste of our time. If we try hard, we might get a C grade (means EB2I folks will get GCs :( :( ). The end result is that we go from D to E. That is what you are really seeing.
PS: despite the above generalization, I am planning to participate in the advocacy days in DC and I have already contributed to the efforts. Because human beings defy logic and what is natural to other life forms on earth.
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gc_mania_03
10-14 05:59 AM
AP Filed/Reciept date: June 1, 2010
Created an SR request : ~ September 20, just got standard email saying Intial Review is still in progress.
We have an Info-pass appointment tomorrow. We chose the 45 day not response option. Not sure if that is ok when we get there.
Is there anything else I need to know before I meet a rep during the Infopass appointment.
We plan to take all relevant documents, along with a copy of email from a conference in Canada where my wife is invited.
Any input will be great.
-Thx
Created an SR request : ~ September 20, just got standard email saying Intial Review is still in progress.
We have an Info-pass appointment tomorrow. We chose the 45 day not response option. Not sure if that is ok when we get there.
Is there anything else I need to know before I meet a rep during the Infopass appointment.
We plan to take all relevant documents, along with a copy of email from a conference in Canada where my wife is invited.
Any input will be great.
-Thx
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ujjvalkoul
05-12 01:05 PM
Just an idea, otherwise I am afraid we will be in this boat forever, being exploited and instability galore
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kaisersose
12-06 03:20 PM
This is like the banana joke in an old tamil movie, it is over 157 days and the USCIS now wants to go by processing times which mention july 3rd processing date, which is still late, but then they will say it is just one day over your receipt date.
If I were planning to use my EAD now or in the near future I would just cough up $380 and apply for a fresh EAD instead of chasing USCIS.
If it works, then it is money well spent compared to running back and forth to USCIS offices, calling them daily and all the painful aggravation involved.
I will gladly spend 380 instead of risking the possiblity of picking up Diabetes or Blood pressure due to stress.
If I were planning to use my EAD now or in the near future I would just cough up $380 and apply for a fresh EAD instead of chasing USCIS.
If it works, then it is money well spent compared to running back and forth to USCIS offices, calling them daily and all the painful aggravation involved.
I will gladly spend 380 instead of risking the possiblity of picking up Diabetes or Blood pressure due to stress.
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485InDreams
03-17 07:14 PM
I have listened to a couple of speaches by Bernake in NPR. Basically that guy is completely in the blank on how to handle the economy. He simply says, we are in this mess, because the lenders were very lenient. Fed measures such as interest rate cut and pumping money into the banking system is causing the dollar to fall thus further weakening the economy.
I say, we all write to Bernake that some 10, 000 immigrants will buy homes if we all get a GC. 10, 000 may or may not buy a home, but let us just polish the numbers a little bit. 10,000 * 300,000 (average home price) = 1 million billion dollars . Actually the total figure is 3 billion $$; enough to give a massive jolt to the sagging economy. I think we should also write to Wall Street journal and all major news paper organizations about this.
In America, people gets recognized when they offers a solution for a problem faced by the country. Whiners are (who write to Bush or Senators) do not get noticed nor are respected.
I can understand your anciousness in getting green card,,but the problem now is to make existing home owners to pay off their mortgage bills and tied to their home than giving to the bunch of immigrants aspiring to buy out from them in a give away price....
Honestly speaking, we are indirectly responsible for this credit crunch...
I blame more on the Onsite/Offshore model.....
wait for some time...time is the good medicine and it will heal by itself....
I say, we all write to Bernake that some 10, 000 immigrants will buy homes if we all get a GC. 10, 000 may or may not buy a home, but let us just polish the numbers a little bit. 10,000 * 300,000 (average home price) = 1 million billion dollars . Actually the total figure is 3 billion $$; enough to give a massive jolt to the sagging economy. I think we should also write to Wall Street journal and all major news paper organizations about this.
In America, people gets recognized when they offers a solution for a problem faced by the country. Whiners are (who write to Bush or Senators) do not get noticed nor are respected.
I can understand your anciousness in getting green card,,but the problem now is to make existing home owners to pay off their mortgage bills and tied to their home than giving to the bunch of immigrants aspiring to buy out from them in a give away price....
Honestly speaking, we are indirectly responsible for this credit crunch...
I blame more on the Onsite/Offshore model.....
wait for some time...time is the good medicine and it will heal by itself....
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stuckinmuck
05-28 02:56 PM
Hi,
I found this interesting comment from a blog. It has been posted by an H.R. representative who has access to H1B and GC users' records. The points raised are indeed valid and they seem to have a 'case' against us. I do not by any means want to undermine our efforts but it does provide a perspective from the 'citizens' perspective.
The bill would also drastically increase the number of H-1B visas issued to foreign professional workers. As a Human Resources representative, I see first hand how the H-1B visa and employment based green card programs actually work together to drive U.S. white collar workers from their jobs and even from their careers. To begin with, there is virtually nothing in the law that prevents employers from hiring H-1Bers for open positions even if qualified Americans are available and willing to do the work. Americans are routinely laid off and replaced with lower paid H-1Bers also. In these cases, Americans have practically no legal recourse available under current law. H-1B is also a dual intent visa, so an employer may sponsor an H-1Ber for an EB green card for legal permanent resident status. When a company seeks to sponsor a foreign worker for an EB green card, they are required by law to demonstrate a good faith effort to recruit Americans first. This process is called labor certification. But employers routinely game the labor certification process for green card sponsorship to defraud even well qualified citizen job applicants in favor of low wage foreigners. They use fake job ads and/or bad faith interviews of American citizens to convince the federal government that they tried to find American workers first. These practices are common in high tech and even in some non-tech industries, but HR people are told to keep quiet about it or lose their jobs.
I would be in favor of a program that issues a small number of self-sponsoring green cards for truly innovative foreign nationals on a competitive basis. But very few of the H-1Bers or green card applicants that I have seen in 10+ years even come close to being truly innovative. Most are just practitioners with skills that are actually quite common among the domestic workforce. The only thing special about these foreigners is that they will work for substantially less than Americans in order to have a chance to become legal permanent residents. Thus they are used by management to sweeten corporate balance sheets.
The prevailing wage regulations are supposed to insure that foreign nationals are paid the same as their American counterparts in the same job functions, but these regulations are so riddled with loopholes that they are a bad joke.
Since my work allows me to have access to salary records, I can tell you that the labor cost savings for H-1Bers and green card applicants is substantially greater than the costs of filing the applications with the government.
Citizens should demand that both the H-1B and employment based green card programs be abolished in their current form.
My point is if we check our credentials, how many of us are 'true' innovators? I know I am not, I am an expert in what I do and am an asset to my company but I haven't filed any patents or publications which would be the true requirement for this country. My skills are indeed readily available in domestic workers as well. Could that be the reason for the backlog in EB-3 and none in EB-1? So do we need to do a reality check here? Just wondering if this could be the reason why we're getting a raw deal. Could it be that 'highly skilled' is not enough but 'genius' and 'highly skilled' is what's required here? Just a thought.
I found this interesting comment from a blog. It has been posted by an H.R. representative who has access to H1B and GC users' records. The points raised are indeed valid and they seem to have a 'case' against us. I do not by any means want to undermine our efforts but it does provide a perspective from the 'citizens' perspective.
The bill would also drastically increase the number of H-1B visas issued to foreign professional workers. As a Human Resources representative, I see first hand how the H-1B visa and employment based green card programs actually work together to drive U.S. white collar workers from their jobs and even from their careers. To begin with, there is virtually nothing in the law that prevents employers from hiring H-1Bers for open positions even if qualified Americans are available and willing to do the work. Americans are routinely laid off and replaced with lower paid H-1Bers also. In these cases, Americans have practically no legal recourse available under current law. H-1B is also a dual intent visa, so an employer may sponsor an H-1Ber for an EB green card for legal permanent resident status. When a company seeks to sponsor a foreign worker for an EB green card, they are required by law to demonstrate a good faith effort to recruit Americans first. This process is called labor certification. But employers routinely game the labor certification process for green card sponsorship to defraud even well qualified citizen job applicants in favor of low wage foreigners. They use fake job ads and/or bad faith interviews of American citizens to convince the federal government that they tried to find American workers first. These practices are common in high tech and even in some non-tech industries, but HR people are told to keep quiet about it or lose their jobs.
I would be in favor of a program that issues a small number of self-sponsoring green cards for truly innovative foreign nationals on a competitive basis. But very few of the H-1Bers or green card applicants that I have seen in 10+ years even come close to being truly innovative. Most are just practitioners with skills that are actually quite common among the domestic workforce. The only thing special about these foreigners is that they will work for substantially less than Americans in order to have a chance to become legal permanent residents. Thus they are used by management to sweeten corporate balance sheets.
The prevailing wage regulations are supposed to insure that foreign nationals are paid the same as their American counterparts in the same job functions, but these regulations are so riddled with loopholes that they are a bad joke.
Since my work allows me to have access to salary records, I can tell you that the labor cost savings for H-1Bers and green card applicants is substantially greater than the costs of filing the applications with the government.
Citizens should demand that both the H-1B and employment based green card programs be abolished in their current form.
My point is if we check our credentials, how many of us are 'true' innovators? I know I am not, I am an expert in what I do and am an asset to my company but I haven't filed any patents or publications which would be the true requirement for this country. My skills are indeed readily available in domestic workers as well. Could that be the reason for the backlog in EB-3 and none in EB-1? So do we need to do a reality check here? Just wondering if this could be the reason why we're getting a raw deal. Could it be that 'highly skilled' is not enough but 'genius' and 'highly skilled' is what's required here? Just a thought.
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a1b2c3
01-13 05:26 PM
I don't think you're following it too closely.. every year it creeps up a few early 2005 months, becomes unavailable the last quarter then in October jumps back to late 2003
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If that is the case, I stand corrected. This whole country quota is unfair, that was my only point.
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If that is the case, I stand corrected. This whole country quota is unfair, that was my only point.
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theMan
06-14 03:29 PM
Even my 140 was filed with CP. My PD was current last month. I filed my 485 (AOS) last week. As per my attorney if CP is specified in your 140, you have 2 options. You can file CP or AOS. You can just file for AOS. No need to convert. But AOS is speicifed in your 140 and want to convert to CP. Thank you need to file some form.
Thanks for the update. I received the same answer from my attorney as well.
Thanks for the update. I received the same answer from my attorney as well.
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pmpforgc
02-19 02:33 PM
Hi
It looks like most people are of the opinion going for term life and investing extra money in Mutual fund or Securities rather than going for Whole life and paying for lot high premiums.
So now my question is
(1) can you list companies and term life policies that you found better and more comptitative compared to others in market, along with their plus and minus
(2) List important websites for such comapnies
(3) Does Having GC and not having GC makes significant difference in terms of Premium for the Term Life Policy
Also list other informative sources for Term or Life Insurance Policies
Thanks
It looks like most people are of the opinion going for term life and investing extra money in Mutual fund or Securities rather than going for Whole life and paying for lot high premiums.
So now my question is
(1) can you list companies and term life policies that you found better and more comptitative compared to others in market, along with their plus and minus
(2) List important websites for such comapnies
(3) Does Having GC and not having GC makes significant difference in terms of Premium for the Term Life Policy
Also list other informative sources for Term or Life Insurance Policies
Thanks
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go_guy123
07-02 11:27 AM
If DOJ agress what is being done based on country of origin is unjust, in what way can they help?
Can they ask congress to act? can they order USCIS to recapture lost visas?
DOJ does not ask congress to act. They directly give orders to executive branch that is USCIS in this case, based on their judgment..
Can they ask congress to act? can they order USCIS to recapture lost visas?
DOJ does not ask congress to act. They directly give orders to executive branch that is USCIS in this case, based on their judgment..
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02-19 04:06 PM
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ronitm
06-28 12:32 PM
It would be great to have premium processing for 485s instead now that visa nos are available. Now now ... i know thats wishful thinking but think about it-could save a lot of time and money over EAD/AP/FP renewals. But then again hurts their income stream thats why they wont do it :((
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at0474
03-21 04:28 PM
"1) Name of the City where Visa was issued: ( Did you write Advance Parole ?)"
--I put USA.
"2) Date of Visa Issued: ( Did you write Date of issuing Parole ?)"
--Did not write anything.
"My wife has gone to India. She has her Passport with her two Parole Approvals and her new extended H-4 Approval. Does she need anything else other than these documenys ? "
--That's about it. Doesn't need anything else. If she is not getting her visa stamped and planning on returning on AP, she should just give AP to the officer and say that she is seeking entry on AP. Officer would direct her for secondary process where she will get her AP/i-94 stamped.
I guess you gave a copy of your documents to your wife. Even if you did not, you shouldn't worry much. She should be ok.
--I put USA.
"2) Date of Visa Issued: ( Did you write Date of issuing Parole ?)"
--Did not write anything.
"My wife has gone to India. She has her Passport with her two Parole Approvals and her new extended H-4 Approval. Does she need anything else other than these documenys ? "
--That's about it. Doesn't need anything else. If she is not getting her visa stamped and planning on returning on AP, she should just give AP to the officer and say that she is seeking entry on AP. Officer would direct her for secondary process where she will get her AP/i-94 stamped.
I guess you gave a copy of your documents to your wife. Even if you did not, you shouldn't worry much. She should be ok.
gc28262
02-15 07:01 PM
Folks,
I've been hearing a lot of banter about the L1 Vs H1-B the fact remains both these categories are badly abused, it doesnt matter who is the bigger evil. I would tend to agree that L1 has a worse abuse rate however.
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When the H1-B was conceived it was supposed to pave its way really skilled engineers with excellent credentials and it is not the case anymore, 1)if you are going to tell me things like QA and Data Warehousing need mind boggling skills I think I can just have a good laugh at it. The local citizens are very much capable of executing on them. These jobs account for a huge majority of the software based jobs in the US, yes this is not the only category for H1-B jobs but software accounts for a big chunk.
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2) Consultants bringing in people from wherever charging them a huge sum of money filing for their H1-B and then looking out for a job for them, the only skill here is the consultants skill in finding the person a job :-).
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3) I do not agree with the notion of good consultants, every consultant abuses the employment based Visa system,
4) and I am for a cap on L1-B visa's or a limit thats decided by the number of employees a firm employs in the US.
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1. If you are in IT field, you don't even have a grasp of software development lifecycle and the part QA plays in it. A good QA cycle is essential for a good quality product. It is your ignorance about software development cycle that makes you say good QA guys are not an asset for a good product and they are not smart as developers.
A tenth grader with enough common sense can do good software development. India produces lot of people with good common sense and analytical thinking. That is one of the reasons for India's software boom.
IMO if you don't have a patent in your name, you are not high skilled enough.
2. How many consulting companies do you know do charge their candidates for filing H1 ? I haven't come accross any. It is illegal to do that. If someone is doing that, ICE is after them.
3. All I can say is you are as ignorant as some of the anti-immigrants in this country. You haven't seen the real world.Come out of your little world and look around to see the real world.
4. Yes, you are for whatever suits you. What about getting yourself a preferential treatment for H1B visa and GC ? Sounds good ?
BTW I am curious why you are referring to "consulting companies" as consultants. "consultant" and "consulting companies" mean different things.
I've been hearing a lot of banter about the L1 Vs H1-B the fact remains both these categories are badly abused, it doesnt matter who is the bigger evil. I would tend to agree that L1 has a worse abuse rate however.
.................................................. ....................................
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.................................................. ........................................
When the H1-B was conceived it was supposed to pave its way really skilled engineers with excellent credentials and it is not the case anymore, 1)if you are going to tell me things like QA and Data Warehousing need mind boggling skills I think I can just have a good laugh at it. The local citizens are very much capable of executing on them. These jobs account for a huge majority of the software based jobs in the US, yes this is not the only category for H1-B jobs but software accounts for a big chunk.
..........................................
2) Consultants bringing in people from wherever charging them a huge sum of money filing for their H1-B and then looking out for a job for them, the only skill here is the consultants skill in finding the person a job :-).
.........................................
3) I do not agree with the notion of good consultants, every consultant abuses the employment based Visa system,
4) and I am for a cap on L1-B visa's or a limit thats decided by the number of employees a firm employs in the US.
.................................................. ..............................................
.................................................. .............................................
1. If you are in IT field, you don't even have a grasp of software development lifecycle and the part QA plays in it. A good QA cycle is essential for a good quality product. It is your ignorance about software development cycle that makes you say good QA guys are not an asset for a good product and they are not smart as developers.
A tenth grader with enough common sense can do good software development. India produces lot of people with good common sense and analytical thinking. That is one of the reasons for India's software boom.
IMO if you don't have a patent in your name, you are not high skilled enough.
2. How many consulting companies do you know do charge their candidates for filing H1 ? I haven't come accross any. It is illegal to do that. If someone is doing that, ICE is after them.
3. All I can say is you are as ignorant as some of the anti-immigrants in this country. You haven't seen the real world.Come out of your little world and look around to see the real world.
4. Yes, you are for whatever suits you. What about getting yourself a preferential treatment for H1B visa and GC ? Sounds good ?
BTW I am curious why you are referring to "consulting companies" as consultants. "consultant" and "consulting companies" mean different things.
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04-17 03:56 PM
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